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« on: September 25, 2004, 09:33:54 PM »

Since the other topic didn't get much attention, I'l try here.

I decided to buy the Mini-Din -> Din adapters from creative,  but I'm wondering if I should buy one or two.  I use the SCC-1 and CM-64 for gaming purposes only, so do I really need more than one cable?

Another question, do I need to connect both the CM-64 and the SCC-1 to the soundcard line in separately, with a RCA splitter cable, or does the sound go through somehow?

This isn't really about SCC-1, but I'l ask anyway: Currently I have a Sound Blaster PRO as digital card on my DOS computer,  I'm wondering if I should get a better card for sound effects. Any suggestions?

Hopefully someone can help.
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2004, 11:09:48 PM »

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I decided to buy the Mini-Din -> Din adapters from creative,  but I'm wondering if I should buy one or two.  I use the SCC-1 and CM-64 for gaming purposes only, so do I really need more than one cable?


For gaming, one is enough. You only need to send data to the synthesizer. Be careful, though. I had four cables, but now I can only find three Wink

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Another question, do I need to connect both the CM-64 and the SCC-1 to the soundcard line in separately, with a RCA splitter cable, or does the sound go through somehow?


Neither the SCC-1 nor the CM-64 has a sound-passthru, but simply connecting the outputs from both devices to line-in via a splitter cable is the wrong way to go about it too. The audio signals need to be mixed properly, otherwise you risk overloading your outputs (Now you don't want to damage your CM-64, do you?) or "just" poor sound quality.

Possible solutions are a cheap mixer circuit (just a couple of resistors) as shown here if you're the DIY type, or a simple audio switchbox (usually a box with 3x2 RCA inputs and 1x2 outputs and then a knob to switch between them) which can be found at most stores that sell hi-fi or consumer electronics. For gaming I seriously doubt you'll need to hear the CM-64 and SCC-1 simultaneously, so the switchbox is probably the most convenient solution.

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This isn't really about SCC-1, but I'l ask anyway: Currently I have a Sound Blaster PRO as digital card on my DOS computer,  I'm wondering if I should get a better card for sound effects. Any suggestions?


Well, the SB-16 has 16 bit support for newer games and is SB (and mostly SB Pro) compatible. The AWE 32/64 has the same features, as far as "wave" audio goes, but is a less noisy than the SB-16.

I'd say if you can get an SB-16 for free, upgrade. If not don't worry too much about it...
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2004, 07:41:20 AM »

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Another question, do I need to connect both the CM-64 and the SCC-1 to the soundcard line in separately, with a RCA splitter cable, or does the sound go through somehow?


The easiest way is to connect your cm-64 out to your sb mic in and your scc-1 out to your sb line in. (that's how i do it)
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2004, 08:44:00 AM »

Thanks for the information, both of you.

I tried the mic in with my current computer's SB live, and it didn't work. Is SB live somehow different from SB PRO/ SB16?

I thought splitter cable would work, since you can turn off the CM-64 when not needed. But if there is a risk of damaging the module, I guess I should get a switchbox, they aren't that expensive anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2004, 10:08:29 AM »

The microphone input is designed for... microphones. They use a completely different (much lower) signal level than normal line-level signals and there's a good chance the sound wll distort when you use it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2004, 07:01:05 PM »

you just have to unmute it in your volume control pannel.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2004, 10:38:10 PM »

Yeah, I got it working now, but it doesn't sound good. I think the switch box will be the best solution for me.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2004, 07:33:02 PM »

you have to turn off "boost" (+20db)
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2004, 09:35:16 PM »

How can I do that?
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2004, 01:41:07 AM »

Have you tried lowering the "Bass" level in the Volume Control? Having a high bass setting tends to lower the sound quality.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2004, 03:23:16 PM »

No, but since it sounds perfect through the line in, I believe the signal going through the mic in is just too low.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2004, 09:36:14 PM »

Ok, I got the SCC-1 today. I didn't expect it to sound this good! Only problem I'm having now is that it seems my Sound card's line in can't handle the signal well enough, and the sound "breaks".  Turning down line-in volume does not help, so I was wondering,  is there is any way to turn down the volume in the SCC-1 itself? I know the problem is in the line in since it sounds perfect with headphones.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2004, 10:25:14 PM »

Ok, I found a solution,  when I connected my speakers to the headphone jack, it  soundeed like it should. So I'l just have to connect the headphone -> SB line in, and it should work ok.
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