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« on: May 04, 2005, 01:02:30 PM »

Hey folks,

Just in the neighbourhood, and all is silent (all is calm, all is bright, round yon virgin, etc etc Wink ) so I thought I'd post about something I was discussing with someone earlier tonight.

What does everyone think of America's First Lady and her 'ribbing' of President Bush? Seemed like the biggest staged, farcical nonsense I've seen for a while.

Also, what about President Putin (Russia) talking about the collapse of the Soviet Union being one of the greatest disasters for the region?

Heck, give me your opinions of the US Federal Reserve raising fixed rates (or Australia's Reserve leaving rates constant again) if that's what you want to discuss.. Wink Just interested to hear what people think about what's happening in the world at the moment- always liked the diverse cultures and nationalities there is at this place (And it's always interesting to get perspectives, given that for example HondaSir lives in the Phillipines, and last time I heard anything about Phillipines in the media was some movie star replacing President Arroyo.. I'm so out of touch with world affairs, I think we all are).

- Alistair

P.S. Quote of the week- Sir Bob Geldof (an absolute hero of mine) calling reality TV, and the rise thereof, in Western society akin to 'the cult of the moron'. Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2005, 10:55:45 PM »

I like that quote... "the cult of the moron".  That is great!  I don't really watch very much TV, but if I was watching, those "reality" TV shows would be at the bottom of my list for things to watch.

Here in Canada, there is a bit of noise coming from federal politicians.  The Liberals (Centre-Left) are involved in a big scandal right now.  Nothing *proven* yet, but looks like a lot of missing money, and a few politicians and their friends getting rich pretty fast.  The Liberals have a minority government, so they have to have at least one other party on-side to get anything done (pass bills, etc).

Recently the Liberals made some kind of pact with the NDP (Leftist) party, which seems to have annoyed the Conservatives (Right wing) a fair amount.  The Conservatives are the #2 party or official opposition.  They have vowed to bring down the Liberals and force an election this summer.

So that's just great, I'm sure everyone wanted that.... another election, which will cost the taxpayers more money.  What a waste.  Oh well.... life goes on.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 12:15:52 PM »

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I like that quote... "the cult of the moron". That is great! I don't really watch very much TV, but if I was watching, those "reality" TV shows would be at the bottom of my list for things to watch.

Another great one from Geldof was in an interview with Andrew Denton, the famous Australian interviewer, talking about the Asian tsunami and how people were "more than willing to pour money over there, but seem to forget about millions of children dying from malnutrition and starvation in Ethiopia".

He also said some great things about coffee houses like Starbucks (I wonder if there's any in Australia yet?) and how they represent the epitomy of mass-production. I thought that was an interesting one.

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So that's just great, I'm sure everyone wanted that.... another election, which will cost the taxpayers more money. What a waste. Oh well.... life goes on.

While I'm not familiar with Canadian politics, I still wonder at your comment- surely it's good that democracy reigns and the people can vote out a potentially corrupt administration? Just playing devil's advocate here..

Finally, today I saw in the news our 'beloved' (weak as the proverbial urine) Foreign Minister Alexander Downer (actually a representative of my own state Tongue ) in America, in the White House with Secretary of State Rice. Does anyone know what they were talking about? Over here I only heard Downer talking about the "Australian hostage" captured in Iraq.

On that note (a final note I promise) I also saw an interesting interview with the ex-wife of a current American hostage in Iraq, part of the group of 6 that was held for 4 days, and then 4 were released except him and a Filipino man. Apaprently the American media don't show the men pleading for their lives- certainly the Australian man (although he's married and living/working in America) this week has been shown many times.
The ex-wife (they had divorced, although obviously she's still attached and had extreme concerns for him) was somewhat cynical about the American press, and Government.

What do you folks think? About both the hostage taking, and the people who are the ones caught up in the hostage situations, whether directly or indirectly.

I find it quite disturbing. This man, whose wife I saw interviewed tonight, has basically 'gone missing', in the most literal sense. He was taken hostage, and is now- who knows. I don't know; it just gets to me. I'm not using this example as some leftist 'pull-out' doctrine or anything, I'm just having a think about the scenario. It's quite interesting (in my opinion)..

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- Alistair
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 02:51:54 AM »

Here are my thoughts, in no particular order:

On the hostage situation, I think the media shows what it wants to show - though I think networks such as CNN are influenced by the government.  That may be why they didn't show as much of the American hostages as they have been of the Australian one.

Personally, I would not go to Iraq in the first place.  I will take risks, do crazy things, get myself into trouble.... but going to Iraq is just too risky for my liking.  I think it's horrible that civilians are being taken hostage, and even worse of course when they are killed instead of set free.  They have no chance to fight back.  I think they know the risks of being over there in times like these though - I mean, how can they not?  If I was there right now, I'd be getting the heck out as fast as I could.

I know the governments are refusing to negotiate with the hostage takers - and I somewhat agree with them.  At the same time though, they should be trying to bail out the hostages, instead of just saying, "We refuse to negotiate!"

Well, it is true that the people here in Canada should have a chance to oust the government and vote again because of all the corruption.  But the question is, how many people want to have another election?  Not many.  The investigation is not complete yet, and anyway, most of the politicians are corrupt.  Doesn't matter which party is in there.  I am sick of the Liberals, I'm sure many others are too.  I just don't think the general population is ready to see more of their tax dollars burn up in another election.
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