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« on: February 29, 2008, 12:11:32 AM »

Yamaha MU10 XG - all are quality 8 ogg vorbis. [Updated 2009/09/17]

Angus Creech - High Society
Bod - Last day in paradise
Crackhead - Be Static
D.Kelly - Bullet
D.Kelly - Dream Child
Dany Carpentier - Conde
Francesco Rossi - Michael XG
JRG - A BedTime Story
JRG - Alchemic Experiments #1 - Breaking Waves
JRG - Alchemic Experiments #2 - Solid Speed
JRG - Floating
JRG - Fool's Gold
JRG - Icicles
JRG - Mario in the Loonybin
JRG - Moraine
JRG - Rhizome
JRG - Sliabh
Klaus Schulze - Diversion
Klaus Schulze - Duburbia
Klaus Schulze - Guinea
Mixdown - Feel The Energy
Mixdown - Children
MU-lator - Distance Devotions
PHAZE1 - A Ritual Life
PHAZE1 - Absolute Zero
PHAZE1 - Permanent Flux 3
Richard Dudeney - Badlands
Richard Dudeney - Boogie
Richard Dudeney - The last of a kind
Robert Avgustin - Crying Ocean
Sascha Henken - Beyond The Skies
Sascha Henken - C.E. ONE
Sascha Henken - Distant
Sascha Henken - Edge Of Darkness
Sascha Henken - Solutions
Sascha Henken - Spheres
Sascha Henken - Training Montage
Skiver & JRG - Buzzard
Trond Olsen - Annie Logik
Trond Olsen - Cut and Paste
Trond Olsen - Dune Mood
Trond Olsen - Garbage Can
Trond Olsen - Jamma
Trond Olsen - Kaktus
Trond Olsen - Kamel
Trond Olsen - Wastelands
Borg It
Butt Blow
Echoing

MU100R recordings taken down for the time being, re-uploaded everything else to new web host and added a lot of new ones (highlighted in bold).
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 11:36:45 AM »

I get a hotlink protection page http://xmplay.net/leech.html

 I already got the file by going around that protection, but you may want to fix that.
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 02:31:46 PM »

I get a hotlink protection page http://xmplay.net/leech.html

 I already got the file by going around that protection, but you may want to fix that.


Duh, foolish me forgot to add queststudios.com into the allow list - fixed  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 05:37:22 PM »

Thank you, Rhizome, this is a wonderful selection of XG Midis. 

I do own the Yamaha DB50XG daughterboard, and I would love to listen to these tracks with the real hardware.  Is there a way to download or convert these files from .ogg to .mid or whichever way the Yamaha XG is able to read them natively?

Thank you, and I appreciate these wonderful tracks.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 07:25:38 PM »

Thank you, Rhizome, this is a wonderful selection of XG Midis. 

I do own the Yamaha DB50XG daughterboard, and I would love to listen to these tracks with the real hardware.  Is there a way to download or convert these files from .ogg to .mid or whichever way the Yamaha XG is able to read them natively?

Thank you, and I appreciate these wonderful tracks.


Converting back is only possible by re-arranging the songs into midi by hand, which would be very impractical to say the least.

The original midi's can be found just by googling on the name of the song + the artist.

Or, if you're lazy, go here: http://www.megatrade.ru/Russian/Midi.html  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 07:58:29 PM »

5MB zip of all the XG MIDIs I've collected (all of them from http://www.megatrade.ru/English/Midi.html ) Smiley

I only recommend vanbasco's Karaoke Player for these. Make sure "Start from first note" is unticked and that the reset is set to XG, or these may play incorrectly.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 08:29:17 PM »

Excellent, thank you to both of you for the wonderful link.  I will be enjoying these tracks very much.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 11:36:59 PM »



Brilliiant! To be honest I never checked out any XG stuff so far - sounds superb! Thanks for sharing!


 
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 11:55:30 PM »

I'm currently digging through the XG MIDIs I have that were composed on an MU100, MU100R and SW1000XG after getting hold of an MU100R last week. This thing means business - 7 FX processors, 64 poly, 32 channels, over 1,200 voices, 43 drum kits  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 01:22:16 PM »

Right, here are some MU100R recordings - mostly DB50XG/MU10 MIDIs, but it shows that Yamaha kept compatibility pretty much the same regarding XG patches. Use anything in the GM bank though, and it's most likely to sound different.

Differences in the MU100R compared to the MU10 are mostly:

- Higher quality samples (more crisp)
- Longer loop points
- Higher quality variations, filters and reverb (7 FX processors compared to 3 in the MU10)

...and here we go!

Dude - Badlands (that's not actually a guitar patch you hear - it's Pulse Sawtooth with a load of variations on it - I think it was composed on an MU100R)
JD Harding - A New Age (composed on an MU100R)
JRG - Floating
JRG - Rhizome (listen to how the reverb is no longer centered, but is panned out)
MU-lator & M4U - Distant Devotions
Sascha Henken - Edge of Darkness
Trond Olsen - Cut and Paste (this MIDI actually overflows XG devices, presenting a "MIDI buffer full!" error on the screen)

Unfortunately, I cannot play around with the Virtual Acoustic daughterboard on my MU100R - it appears it was removed Sad
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 01:54:12 PM »

That badlands song has wayyyy too much reverb in it for my tastes, but Rhizome sounds even better than I'm used to!
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:25:29 PM »

If the MU100R is anything like the SW1000XG, songs composed for the DB50xg, SW60xg, etc. will have an abundance of reverb. I honestly like the tracks by Morten Hagen Svendsen and edited the files for better playback on the SW1000XG (the ones that need it, anyway). This might include reducing reverb, bumping up the volume of certain instruments that don't sound quite the same (some of the instruments sound more "real" on the SW1000XG-- the flutes are more airy and less... ummm... tweety so they're quieter), and some instruments need to be reduced in volume-- that patch called "Dream" can be brutal on the SW1000XG and sound like terrible feedback when the volume and reverb were set originally for the DB50xg.

Anyway, I need to get XGworks reloaded now that I have gotten my SW1000xg working in my system again Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 08:46:46 PM »

MU100R, MU100 and SW1000XG are all the same, besides the physical differences Smiley

Which reminds me, download links don't work anymore and due to the change of my website, I'll only be leaving the directory structure up. You can access that here, and there are many other tracks I've uploaded since this thread Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 09:00:28 AM »

First posted updated with several new tracks and all re-encoded to quality 8 ogg vorbis for the BitJam radio stream. There's also a nice MU100R recording there too, although a slight error with it due to the missing VL plugin board Cry
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2008, 06:30:12 AM »

Hi, thank you for posting these. I sold off my XG equipment years ago, didn't think anyone was still using this stuff.
regarding the differences between devices, although the SW1000 and MU100 had the same spec, the settings, such as effects, filters and so on varied so that tracks sound different. Same goes for the DB50, SW60 and Mu10. It's only really a problem when potent effects are being used (at least that was my experience).
Another good XG musician is Nick Christian/Art of Doubt
thanks very much,
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 05:06:07 PM »

I sold off my XG equipment years ago, didn't think anyone was still using this stuff.

I'm mostly using it to record the XG scene music Smiley

Quote from: rdudeney
regarding the differences between devices, although the SW1000 and MU100 had the same spec, the settings, such as effects, filters and so on varied so that tracks sound different. Same goes for the DB50, SW60 and Mu10. It's only really a problem when potent effects are being used (at least that was my experience).

I remember reading some of the messages you left in your MIDI files regarding differences in the playback on an SW60XG and the MU10 - good to know what they are!

Quote from: rdudeney
Another good XG musician is Nick Christian/Art of Doubt

Thanks, will check the 800+ XG MIDI files I have to see if I have any from him Grin

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thanks very much,
richard

You're most welcome - I'll probably get onto recording the rest of your work now, it's good when composers get in touch  Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 12:14:47 AM »

Thanks for the clips Rhizome.  Trond Olson and Sascha Henken will always have a place in the XG hall of fame!

I noticed your recording of Trond Olson's "Jamma" seems to have more stereo separation (which I kinda like!) than the output of my SW1000XG.  Any idea why?  Are you using the original file from the Megatrade XG site, or have you tweaked it some?
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 01:44:20 AM »

Would anyone be interested in hearing XG recordings from a digital Yamaha MU2000(EX)?

- Alistair
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 04:04:44 AM »

Would anyone be interested in hearing XG recordings from a digital Yamaha MU2000(EX)?

- Alistair

I'd be curious to hear GS playback with Roland's DLS bank loaded. I'd started working on this before sending the MU2000 back. Some of the drumsets need to be removed before the unit will accept the GM.DLS bank; I might still have the version I edited somewhere...

Other than that, the MU2000EX, even with the digital out, doesn't significantly improve upon the MU100/R playback, unless you're recording something specifically composed for it...
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 05:32:28 AM »

I noticed your recording of Trond Olson's "Jamma" seems to have more stereo separation (which I kinda like!) than the output of my SW1000XG.  Any idea why?  Are you using the original file from the Megatrade XG site, or have you tweaked it some?

It's the original file from the Megatrade XG website, however it was recorded from my MU10 (so a level 1 XG device and not a level 2 like the MU100/R/SW1000XG).
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