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« on: August 24, 2008, 05:51:00 AM »

Have upgraded my memory on my Gus PnP from 2mb to 8mb and put it in a new system I've built...installed the 4mb midi patch set but it doesn't seem to be used when I use the Gus midi music in games (DOS)
When the stadard patch set is installed everything works as usual...

Is the 4mb set only usable in Windows?
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 04:30:41 PM »

Yes, it is usable only in windows applications, dos applications with native Interwave support and GM emulation through IWSBOS/MEGAEM. Unfortunatelly Interwave banks not usable in GUS Classic/Max compatibility mode.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 09:36:38 AM »

Yes, it is usable only in windows applications, dos applications with native Interwave support and GM emulation through IWSBOS/MEGAEM. Unfortunatelly Interwave banks not usable in GUS Classic/Max compatibility mode.

Please can you explain something - when you use the GUS PnP Pro in "GUS classic mode" for DOS games compatibility, does the sound card use its built-in 512k RAM to store and use the "GUS classic" patches?  If you are running a DOS game using a windows 98 "dos box", will the sound card not take advantage of *any* of the extra added RAM banks?  If this is correct, will the GUS PnP Pro always sound inferior to a GUS Classic card with 1MB of RAM, when playing DOS games?

Thanks a lot for any help.  Best regards, Robert.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2009, 07:17:05 AM »

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when you use the GUS PnP Pro in "GUS classic mode" for DOS games compatibility, does the sound card use its built-in 512k RAM to store and use the "GUS classic" patches?
Yes. It is benefit of Pro variant in comparison with regular PnP card. It have full Classic/Max compatibility right out of the box without adding extra ram.
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If you are running a DOS game using a windows 98 "dos box", will the sound card not take advantage of *any* of the extra added RAM banks?  If this is correct, will the GUS PnP Pro always sound inferior to a GUS Classic card with 1MB of RAM, when playing DOS games?
Yes. Until game not support Interwave directly it always sound right like GUS Classic/Max. "Big" PnP's memory can be used only in Interwave supporting games and apps (very few), or in General MIDI emulation (not sure if it works under Windows DOS box). But you always can replace original GUS patch set a.k.a "Ultrasound Compatible Patch Set" in PnP's interpretation by another one patch set like "Pro Pats" or "Pro Patches Lite".

p.s.
http://ftp://78.153.157.21/iso/
Here you can get some GUS ISO's:

__ftp://78.153.157.21/iso/gravis_ultrasound[bin].rar__
Original installation CD for Classic/Max/Ace

__ftp://78.153.157.21/iso/gravis_ultrasound_pnp(1996)[iso].rar__
Same for PnP. Later re-issue (by 1996) with 4mb Patch Set on it.

__ftp://78.153.157.21/iso/utopia_soundbank__
Legendary Utopia Soundbank CD-ROM. Unfortunatelly not original, but re-assembled package with some ancient warez added. This "version" came from ex-USSR fido groups in later 90's. Even in such non-authentic look is very rare peace of software.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2009, 07:22:06 PM »

Thanks for the info!  Grin

Unfortunately, ATM, those ftp links are not working.  But I will recheck them often, because I really want that software - it will greatly enhance my enjoyment of the GUS PnP.

BTW, do you know the maximum amount of RAM the GUS PnP uses for GUS classic compatibility mode?  Is it no more than 1mb, making it equal to the maximum amount of RAM possible on the GUS Classic itself?

Many thanks, best regards, Robert.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2009, 08:22:39 PM »

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Unfortunately, ATM, those ftp links are not working.  But I will recheck them often, because I really want that software - it will greatly enhance my enjoyment of the GUS PnP.
This is my home ftp server. Unfortunatelly it is unaccessible in web brousers because requires "active" mode. I forgot to say that. Try to use full featured ftp clients like Total Commander, FAR and etc. As a last resort i can upload them to any of filehosting services like rapidshare.
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BTW, do you know the maximum amount of RAM the GUS PnP uses for GUS classic compatibility mode?  Is it no more than 1mb, making it equal to the maximum amount of RAM possible on the GUS Classic itself?
Exactly. Only one megabyte. It is a shame that such big amount of ram reached with PnP cards completely useless in games. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »

I will download Total Commander immediately!  Thanks!  Grin
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