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« on: August 03, 2011, 07:40:02 PM »

Hey there,

I'm wondering what souncards are able to play MIDI using internal sounds (and not the Microsoft GS Wavetable) nowadays, expecially for a laptop computer. I would be able to work with MIDI with no hardware modules to carry around, just total mobility!

Some time ago I bought an used Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Notebook, an express card that unfortunately wasn't able to test, as my notebook died before... and my new one has no express card slot.

Anyone tried the USB version of the Sound Blaster X-Fi? Any other alternative is appreciated. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 11:57:35 PM »

Just PLAY or are you doing a little composing as well?

XMplay will allow you to play MIDI files using any soundfont you want.  A real good (free) one is here:

http://queststudios.com/smf/index.php/topic,3286.0.html
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 07:11:49 AM »

Hey BlueMax,

my aim is to be able to composing some general midi music using a copy of Cubase 5 LE. This version of Cubase has very limited support to VST instruments, so I was thinking to go completely midi with an hardware card or something similar.

BTW never used XM Play before, it seems a very nice player, thank you.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 12:08:50 AM »

Don't forget there's a Roland SC-55 for notebooks, the Roland SCP-55. Must have a PCMCIA slot though.

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 07:00:12 AM »

Yeah, but the card isn't supported by anything later than Win95/98.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 08:02:37 AM »

Yeah, I saw one some time ago on ebay, but as you read I have no slot of anything, today's notebook seems to have give up with those cards... more like the USB is the trend for audio cards now (look at Creative or Terratec), but no website is telling you if hardware MIDI playback is available or they rely on Windows GS Wavetable. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »

Well, you can always use the Roland SC-55mkII with a serial cable (if your laptop has one) with a USB sound card, but that's an external module..

I looked into this back when I was using a laptop as my DAW.. I would probably go with a Creative card with soundfonts, now that soundfonts are largely freeware.

If the laptop is good enough, you may look into any soundcard and using sample instruments like VSTi's or better.

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More like the USB is the trend for audio cards now (look at Creative or Terratec), but no website is telling you if hardware MIDI playback is available or they rely on Windows GS Wavetable
Something to be aware of is that unlike the 90's and early 00's, sound cards for modern computers rarely have a wavetable MIDI synth on board, or at least, much less commonly. There tends to be 3 kinds of soundcard in the sub $200 category, semi-pro like the M-Audio, EMU, etc, the mid-tier allround, like the Turtle Beach cards, and the budget, which have no real brand and cost 10 bucks and advertise "digital support" or "HD sound" or something similar. They usually pass digital signal fine, but suck for anything else.

But anyway, typically only the "mid-tier" cards have any onboard MIDI synth. Obviously Turtle Beach does.

The problem is that there really isn't any mid-tier cards for laptops, except I guess the Sound Blaster cards. And most of those are geared around 5.1 movie playback and gaming.
All the high-end ones have no MIDI synth, as they're designed for recording and playback, not gaming or all-round use.

The only options I really think you have are:
1. Use a virtual synth like Roland VSC or Yamaha's S-YXG
2. Use the BassMIDI soundfont driver, which will let you load soundfonts and use them like a wavetable device via driver without having to have a wavetable sound card (works as long as you have some sort of sound card)
3. Use the driver recently posted here that lets you load VSTi's and then via driver as MIDI synths/instruments.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 11:01:26 AM »

I've opened a thread on Creative forums (and sent a message to the support) to understand if their USB cards have a MIDI synth on board or not. It would be cool to have all in one little USB device.

Unfortunately the Bassmidi driver has some latency and other difficulties when used within Cubase, so I had to unistall it. I even tried with SynthFont and the virtual MIDI cable LoopBe1, no latency but some bugs and issues on the playback. About the Roland and Yamaha soft-synths I remember using the S-yxg50 in 1999-2000, it would be really cool but there's always the latency problem, I think.

Also, I already own a lot of VST instruments and hardware synths on my main DAW, but would really not have all that stuff on a laptop only for writing some basic MIDI, rough stuff, (and build the complete song later on the DAW). You know, less is more.

Hope I'm not sounding paranoic.  Grin
As soon as I will get an official reply from Creative, I wil let you know if the USB Sound Blasters are the way to get a good GM synth to while you're away from the studio.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 06:26:45 AM »

From Creative:

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I am afraid this product doesn't support SoundFonts. MIDI playback have to go through Windows GS Wavetable. There are no plans to change this at this point. A PCI sound card would be a better choice over an USB model for this.

(Sound Blaster X-fi Go! Pro)
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