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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Everything Sierra / Re: Getting into Space Quest - which version, which soundtrack?
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on: October 13, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
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Hello!
I figured, why not get into the Space Quest series, since I am a fan of LucasArts adventures and thought, why not try out some of the Sierra ones. I also look forward to getting to know the soundtrack and I think might enjoy some of the humor, too. :-)
I tried myself on Space Quest I (VGA version, the remake from 1992, I believe). I played it under DOS with my MT-32. The music was nice, but the game left me a little bit frustrated, as I would die over and over after being stranded on a planet. I am not used to the thought of actually being able to die in an adventure as in "game over"... no respawn... dead... load game. I don't say, that I don't like it, I'm just not that patient at the moment. :-)
Well, so I decided to get a more "modern" game of the same series, hoping that I would like it better I would go for Space Quest 4 (your MT-32 will *love* it  ) as I wrote in another Thread: -snip- The SQ4 tracks are absolutely stunning - real sort of movie sound(fx)tracks... btw - one of the first games ever I play with my LAPC-1 back in the early 90s.... Sooo cool - just listen (again...)... http://wiw.org/~jess/multimedia/14-%20Space%20Quest%20IV%20(MT-32)-%20Travelling%20Through%20Time.mp3http://wiw.org/~jess/multimedia/15-%20Space%20Quest%20IV%20(MT-32)-%20Planet%20Ortega%20(Roger's%20Cooked-%20Death%202).mp3http://wiw.org/~jess/multimedia/16-%20Space%20Quest%20IV%20(MT-32)-%20Planet%20Estros.mp3-snap- (and the gfx are great too ) Ok - it's typical SQ stuff/gameplay - but go for it! Lutz |
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Anything & Everything / Re: Enhanced vs Unmodified soundtracks
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on: October 09, 2007, 07:09:28 AM
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Sanger is the exception, but he's non-Sierra. He loved using the SC-55 because it suits his style of composing. And he used it well. Another example is Ron Saltmarsh, who composed for Noctropolis- the best SC-55 score I've ever heard.
Thanks for the tip! I checked this one out using Dosbox + my SC-55! Sounds great! Never heard that one before. Can you recommend other "best SS-55 ever" (non sierra) treasures? My favourites are f.a. Descent, Privateer, Terminator (title theme!) and Creature Shock so far... (sorry for getting OT for a slight moment ) Well hopefully, Ari and I will be able to satisfy everyone's taste in Sierra soundtracks. We are currently discussing adding straight, non-enhanced recordings of Sierra's soundtracks to these pages. Since I have the server space, that won't be an issue. But I've also just begun another total website revamp (it's about time!) which will take up all of my time to accomplish. Over 100 pages with thousands of links. Much will depend on Ari for this non-enhancement project, so ... stay tuned.
Fantastic!  Looking forward especially to the pure MT-32 recordings of Police Quest 3 and Space Quest 4.... Lutz |
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Anything & Everything / Re: MT-32 digital soundtrack "enhancements"
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on: October 05, 2007, 07:46:22 AM
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Thanks for your comments everybody! I understand that it's time consuming, but it's a tiny amount of time compared to the time spent setting up the "enhanced" version.
And the point of a digital recording is so that those who don't have the hardware can hear what the music was supposed to sound like. Playing the MIDI on most computers won't accomplish that.
That sums up what I was looking for when I did a LAPC-1 article (or LAPC-I, I discovered later ) for the sort of fanzine "Lotek 64" http://www.lotek64.com (*.pdf + print) Please have a look at it (only if you're into german language). Give non MT-32 owners (the oldschool Roland PC-Stuff were/are not so popular over here in Germany/Austria) the possibility to listen to the original MT32 soundtracks. The article is btw not so much about the technical stuff but about the magic moment when you connect the first time ever the mt32 to your hifistuff and load Sierras Red Baron (f.a.)... http://www.lotek64.com/main/fileretriever.php?extended=0&issue=14I hope this doesn't sound argumentative; my intent was more thoughtful speculation. To restore any imbalance, let me add that I really agree with this idea: Especially in the second half (Introduction) I love the MT-32 sound the way Jan Hammer created it - yes exactly with all the limitations and "noise" produced by the MT32... Seeming imperfections really can become aesthetic perfections, can't they? I don't think it's just nostalgia. Every artistic choice involves some kind of compromise. And somehow it is in those compromises that the possibility of beauty arises. -Luke Very well said. Speaking of limitations - now I run out of talent writing in english language It would easer to say it in german. Anyway I try: Jan Hammer's "Introduction" in the original mt-32 version sounds for me like directly out of Miami Vice with a lot of (early) 80s style synth feeling. The "enhancement" is "cleaner" - IMO lost its charme a little bit... I agree and disagree, which is life Wink I agree.  I honestly believe the listening experience of listening to raw MT-32 or SC-55 data isn't a very enjoyable one I absolutely disagree, but this is a matter of personal preferences, of course. Don't get me wrong, I know the MT-32 or SC-55 are far from perfect. The other day I was listening to LSL3 Dance of the feral pig in Shadowfax's version (Phantom) and I really liked it, the horns are beautiful, which of course are not in the MT-32 version. But I also like the original version, with its synth-like horns, I can't really say why. Look at it this way, the piano-forte was an instrument that basically substituted the harpsichord, and most people will like the sound of a piano a lot more than the sound of a harpsichord. Bach's works for harpsichord are played with a piano these days. Sounds great, probably better. But the harpsichord still has a certain charm in it, it's different, not better or worse, just different... (and for me, it's part of history as well). I can only second that... Over the years, there's been a few Sierra songs that I've added to and/or arranged quite differently, and have posted on this site. (I believe that in almost every case, a non-rearranged version is also presented somewhere on the site. i.e., Code-Name Iceman's "Flight From Tihiti") BTW: I had problems to find this (PQ3 - original Roland MT-32 score) old (?) link again (I used it in my LAPC-I Story) on your site... http://66.49.226.244/digital/quest/pq3_1.mp3Lutz |
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MUSIC & SOUND CARDS / Roland MT-32 Sound Module / Roland MT-32 Game Music
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on: February 18, 2005, 12:18:02 PM
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Seeing this old thread getting attention again I once again realized that we really need an MT-32 game music archive for all those non-Sierra games. The list of games supporting the MT-32 on mobygames.com is really long so even Roland aficionados certainly don't know them all.
While there exist sites with a certain amount of mp3's these archives can hardly be called exhaustive.
I think it would therefore be nice to have a site where users could contribute their favourite music along with comments or reviews so that the site could grow into an archive of increasing completeness. Great idea! Lutz |
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Everything Sierra / Best soundtrack
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on: January 30, 2005, 12:52:57 PM
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IMO Sierra + MT32 was magic in the early "MT-32 only" years I'm not so sure about the later releases. What do you say (from 1992/93 on) are the best 3 sierra soundtracks written for GM (SC55)? I'm asking cause I got my SC55 in the mid 90s so perhaps I missed some excellent Sierra SC55 stuff... So far I think other games like Privateer, http://home.nikocity.de/goerke/sc55.mp3Creature Shock, 7th Guest, Terminator, Descent (using lot's of different drum kits btw) did the "SC55 magic". Lutz |
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Everything Sierra / Best soundtrack
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on: January 29, 2005, 01:56:08 PM
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For me, SQ3/4's music is overrated, and SQ5 and 6's scores are underrated (I know you like all SQ soundtracks, don't worry, Ari, I'm just saying ). SQ5 and 6 are far more 'mature' scores for my money, and I find it weird that anyone can say they 'like SQ3's soundtrack' as in one of the best Sierra scores. Groundbreaking for its' time, but really only 15 minutes of good music there. IMO in the later releases MT-32 support wasn't that good anymore cause many times they just mapped the MT-32 to a sort of gm mode for the tracks written for gm. So you have to listen to the later sierra releases with your SC55 to get the best sound IMO. And that's why I love SQ3 so much on the LAPC-1, cause Bob Siebenberg did an excellent job with the MT32 sounds! And not always the longest track is the best Later SQ5 and 6 was IMO disappointing in MT32 mode. Lutz |
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MUSIC & SOUND CARDS / Digital Audio / Re: Recording mid file played by SC-8850 on line-in
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on: January 15, 2005, 01:08:16 PM
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I've got a big problem and haven't found a solution yet.
I'm trying to record some mid files played by my external sound module, to get an mp3 or wav output file.
I currently have a SBlive 5.1. The sound module is connected to the line input. Unfortuneately I can't record the files without any backgroung signal noise. (really much noise, I think!!) I tried most out!!
How can I produce a noiseless mp3 track of the mid file. (= recording the line input of the SBLIVE to mp3)
Do I need a better sound card? Would an Audigy 2 ZS help? What is the problem? The AD-DA convertion?
I need your help!!! I recorded this mp3 the same way you did (SC-55 to line in) using my SBlive value! http://home.nikocity.de/goerke/sc55.mp3IMO the SBlive value can't be better than your SBlive 5.1. But my *.mp3 recording is ok (can't hear any noise). I use goldwave 3.03 to record the *.wav and converted it to *.mp3 BTW: The awesome tune is from the game Privateer! Lutz |
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MUSIC & SOUND CARDS / Roland MT-32 Sound Module / Re: Whats the big deal?
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on: January 13, 2005, 09:09:45 AM
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I notice everyone is going on about this card, whats so special about it? So special about the MT-32 is that you can create your own patches using sysex, many game makers (big names like Jan "Miami Vice" Hammer and Bob "Supertramp" Siebenberg did many MT-32 tunes) have done this (SIERRA) and maked it sound fantastic! That means many MT-32 soundtracks have their special unique sounds - and this btw makes it so difficult to emulate the MT-32... BTW: Which card do you use for midi? Lutz |
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MUSIC & SOUND CARDS / Roland MT-32 Sound Module / Whats the big deal?
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on: January 11, 2005, 07:13:55 PM
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Somebody called "Space Quest Lover" should know For example these superb MT-32 tunes: "SPACE QUEST III - THE PIRATES OF PESTULON" "Main Title Theme" by Bob Siebenberg Great sort of Supertramp pop song. Awesome! "SPACE QUEST III - ROBOT GARBAGE FREIGHTER" By Bob Siebenberg Super cool dramatic piece of music with superb sysex-sounds.... "SPACE QUEST IV-ROGER WILCO & THE TIME RIPPERS" Main Title Theme by Mark Siebert What should I say - a classic! SPACE QUEST IV-ROGER WILCO AND THE TIME RIPPERS "Closing Themes" By Mark Siebert Wondeful epic theme. Begins very dramatic with a variation of the main title theme - with a quite middle part. Lutz |
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