Rise of the Dragon Sega CD audio tracks

[SirGraham]

I blieve that the Sega CD version of the game contains 4 audio tracks (that are used in the game but can also be played on a regular stereo), and unless I didn't look well enough, Quest Studios don't have these in its music pages. Why not? Their superior in quality to the PC version's music, and, if the Sega CD's audio track format is the same as the format found in old PC games, they can be easily turned into wave files.

[Alistair]

Well, probably because I'm the only one at these forums who OWNS the SEGA CD. I have the tracks, and will gladly rip and upload for you if you so desire. THe intro is pretty nasty, what with all the MTZ killing and all!

I'm a major ROTD fan, in case ya couldn't guess. Will definitely do a CD of it, maybe even after Kyrandia's done..

EDIT: I disagree, though. The PC version has nicer music than these files. I prefer the MT-32 intro sequence to the digital one, although I borrowed a lot of the ideas when I recorded it digitally a while ago. But anyway, let me know and I'll upload. The MP3's on the web are 128 kbps quality, and not worth listening to.

- Alistair

[HondaSiR]

THe intro is pretty nasty, what with all the MTZ killing and all!

A bit off-topic...but...

I find it appaling that when they converted the game to the Sega console, they included more footages of violence and killing at the intro BUT chose to censor/cut some footages of Blade and Karyn having a tender moment in their bedroom after their date (the PC version's bedroom scene is complete although there is really no frontal nudity or breast exposure).  

The people who made the conversion clearly thinks that extreme violence is ok for the general audience but a sensual scene is not. Tsk tsk tsk...

[Alistair]

Well said, Honda. I also find that action by SEGA (I presume, by SEGA) disgraceful. The love scene with the date, the whole scene, is my favourite of the game. To remove that is just awful! Ruins the whole emotion. (Think I was crying- I'm such a hopeless romantic. Also really liked that musical piece.)

- Alistair

[SirGraham]

I find it appaling that when they converted the game to the Sega console, they included more footages of violence and killing at the intro

Hmm... I didn't see any extra violence in the intro of the Sega version, it looks just like the PC version...

Well, probably because I'm the only one at these forums who OWNS the SEGA CD. I have the tracks, and will gladly rip and upload for you if you so desire. THe intro is pretty nasty, what with all the MTZ killing and all!

Thanks for the offer, Alistair. I sent you a private message.

[Alistair]

I must've missed the extra violence comment by Honda. I don't mind the game's violence, although I'm not a fan of game violence. I guess you have to tolerate it in a game such as this!

No probs, replied.

- Alistair

[HondaSiR]

I don't mind a little violence myself in a game, specially in an enhanced CD version with added speech. However, I do mind if the people behind the conversion omit certain elements in favor of extra disk space or whatever reason. In this case they probably thought the bedroom scene was too mushy for the general audience, hence the reason for its deletion and/or censorship.

[Alistair]

No, from what I've read, they deleted (censored) it because of portrayals of sex.

- Alistair

[HondaSiR]

So what's wrong with portrayals of sex? I don't find that disturbing as I'm sure the younger generation of today are fully aware of its existence. There's no nudity or lascivious acts involved onscreen, so why delete it? The Leisure Suit Larry series has gotten away with more sex and irresponsibility than that one scene in ROTD.

[Alistair]

As I've said before, I have no problem with it, I share your opinion that the scene is excellent and should be in the game.

I'm just assuming it was a SEGA thing.

Will upload the whole data CD tomorrow, if anyone's interested let me know.

- Alistair

[Fancia]

I'm just assuming it was a SEGA thing.

I don't think so, actually. Sega was surprisingly tolerant of both violence and sex at the time, something Nintendo wasn't. The English Sega CD version of Space Adventure Cobra, for instance, left intact all of the nudity that the Japanese version had. It was more likely a decision on Sierra's part to cut that scene.

[Laust]

True, compare Sega to Nintendo and there's a world of difference.. On the other hand, Snatcher for the Mega-CD was also altered, as I recall, removing some gore and other "objectional" material.

[SirGraham]

I must've missed the extra violence comment by Honda.

So this comment was wrong, like I said? I didn't notice any differences in the intro.

[Alistair]

As far as I recall, the only differences between the games is the cut scene from the date and the scene with the receptionist in Deng Hwang's, they added more options with the Na-Pent there.

I don't think so, actually. Sega was surprisingly tolerant of both violence and sex at the time, something Nintendo wasn't.

May be so, Fancia, but simple fact is that it was there in Sierra's release and not in SEGA's

- Alistair

[Fancia]

May be so, Fancia, but simple fact is that it was there in Sierra's release and not in SEGA's

- Alistair

It's not Sega's, though; Sierra both developed and published the Sega CD version. The fact that it was for Sega's console doesn't indicate that Sega did the editing.

Snatcher was edited, but that was done in-house by Konami and not at Sega's request. I'm not certain why, but I assume it was to ensure a Teen rating which, around the time of the Night Trap controversy, would probably have helped sales.

[Alistair]

Ah, OK, Fancia, point taken.

Another thought came to me today- that it was a review board decision. I have the SEGA CD Box in front of me, and it says 'MA-17- Not suitable for minors. Reviewed by the VRC.'.

Presumably the review board was one of those hideous conservative ones (like ours). I mean, MA-17 for ROTD??

- Alistair

[HondaSiR]

'MA-17- Not suitable for minors. Reviewed by the VRC.'.

Great review. The game has all the violence intact from the PC version but has the sex scenes removed...and they slap it with "Not suitable for minors". What if the SEGA version did include the entire bedroom scene plus the violence? Would the rating jump to "Not suitable for all ages"? Jeez. I'm wondering why SEGA (or whoever edited it) even bothered to delete anything if they were gonna be slapped with that kind of rating anyway.

[Alistair]

Er, it must've been late when I wrote that. It actually says 'Rated by the VRC. Not appropriate for minors'.

But investigating further (i.e. reading the fine print on the back ), it says:
"The Videogame Rating Council (VRC), its Rating System, symbols and indicia are trademarks of Sega of America Inc. Copyright 1994 Sega."

Could Misty be wrong?!?!?!
Stay tuned for our next exciting episode!

- Alistair

[Fancia]

Er, it must've been late when I wrote that. It actually says 'Rated by the VRC. Not appropriate for minors'.

But investigating further (i.e. reading the fine print on the back ), it says:
"The Videogame Rating Council (VRC), its Rating System, symbols and indicia are trademarks of Sega of America Inc. Copyright 1994 Sega."

Could Misty be wrong?!?!?!
Stay tuned for our next exciting episode!

- Alistair

The VRC was Sega's rating council, yes, but they didn't actually impose limits on content. They just rated it.

[Kaminari]

Snatcher was edited, but that was done in-house by Konami and not at Sega's request. I'm not certain why, but I assume it was to ensure a Teen rating which, around the time of the Night Trap controversy, would probably have helped sales.

The shower scene was removed not because Konami was afraid of a Teen rating, but because Catherine is a teenager in the Japanese (PC Engine) version. Mind you, they could have left the scene and pretend that she was 21 instead of 14.