MarcV
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« on: August 29, 2006, 08:11:25 AM » |
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Hi guys and girls! I'm new to these forums My name is Marc and am a fan of the old Sierra games ever since I first heard of (the agi version of) Leisure Suit Larry 1. Even though I have played multiple games, Larry was always my most favourite game series. It was very sad to hear that Al Lowe got fired back then...  . I'm very curious to see what his new game Sam Suede will be like! It's been quite a while since I played any of my games. One of the reasons is that I don't know how to use my old hardware (MPU-IPC-T, MT-32 and SCC-1) on a modern computer that has no ISA slots. And the games that should run under Windows often require that you set the video to 256 colors, which WinXP won't allow... So I decided to find me an old computer with ISA slots and install Win98SE on it so I can revive my old stuff 
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2006, 10:46:48 AM » |
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Welcome, Marc!  A "retro-PC" is probably the best solution in order to play Sierra's classics, although emulation is working very good to (and everyday it's improving). Today a modern PC with DosBox can play nearly all those old classics with no problems.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2006, 11:16:40 AM » |
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Greetings, Marc, and welcome!
I, too, use an old Pentium II (with ISA slots) along with Win98SE, to play most old Sierra games. I sometimes also use "moslo.exe" to slow down the system even more. Works good for me.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 11:55:11 AM » |
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Hello there! I also have an old Pentium 2 that contains 2 ISA slots with Windows 95b installed for DOS games and so my 2 legacy sound cards will work correctly 
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MarcV
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 01:23:31 PM » |
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Welcome, Marc!  A "retro-PC" is probably the best solution in order to play Sierra's classics, although emulation is working very good to (and everyday it's improving). Today a modern PC with DosBox can play nearly all those old classics with no problems. I first learned about this "DosBox" program a couple of days ago, when I started to browse these forums for the first time :oops: (even though I have a self made program under SIERRA & MIDI UTILITIES, I made The Sierra MT-32 Sound Library several years ago :wink: ). How can one make the MT-32 communicate with a modern PC using DosBox? I guess you still need some kind of midi interface?
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 01:34:50 PM » |
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DOSBox worked with my MT-32 when ported through my Sound Blaster Audigy's MIDI port. I didn't have to setup anything -- MIDI signals were simply routed through the port, to the MT-32. However, DOSBox is very limited in MIDI support; other than for playing games, it's not a solution to running other MIDI-based DOS software in a simulated DOS environment. But, that's not what it's designed for...
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 02:00:22 PM » |
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DOSBox worked with my MT-32 when ported through my Sound Blaster Audigy's MIDI port. I didn't have to setup anything -- MIDI signals were simply routed through the port, to the MT-32. However, DOSBox is very limited in MIDI support; other than for playing games, it's not a solution to running other MIDI-based DOS software in a simulated DOS environment. But, that's not what it's designed for... I see. Maybe I can connect the MT-32 to the midi port of my SoundBlaster Live! Player 5.1 card that I have in my PC. It looks like I have to build a midi interface to connect it to the 15p SUB-D connector then, but that's no problem for me. Can this DosBox app slow down the midi stream enough to avoid overflowing the MT-32?
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 02:31:12 PM » |
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I see. Maybe I can connect the MT-32 to the midi port of my SoundBlaster Live! Player 5.1 card that I have in my PC. It looks like I have to build a midi interface to connect it to the 15p SUB-D connector then, but that's no problem for me. Can this DosBox app slow down the midi stream enough to avoid overflowing the MT-32?
You could simply buy the appropriate cable from Creative. DOSBox can slow down the game and system so MT-32 buffer underrun errors are avoided. Finally, you only need one ISA slot, as the SCC-1 and MPU-IPC-T do the same thing unless you wish to use each in a separate computer.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2006, 04:07:20 PM » |
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You could simply buy the appropriate cable from Creative. DOSBox can slow down the game and system so MT-32 buffer underrun errors are avoided. Finally, you only need one ISA slot, as the SCC-1 and MPU-IPC-T do the same thing unless you wish to use each in a separate computer. I know that the SCC-1 can be used as a midi port; I already used it that way and then indeed I only need one ISA slot. But I have no ISA slot available right now :?
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2006, 05:32:12 PM » |
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You could simply buy the appropriate cable from Creative. DOSBox can slow down the game and system so MT-32 buffer underrun errors are avoided. Finally, you only need one ISA slot, as the SCC-1 and MPU-IPC-T do the same thing unless you wish to use each in a separate computer. I know that the SCC-1 can be used as a midi port; I already used it that way and then indeed I only need one ISA slot. But I have no ISA slot available right now :? Then you should send ME your SCC-1! 
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2006, 05:37:58 PM » |
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You could simply buy the appropriate cable from Creative. DOSBox can slow down the game and system so MT-32 buffer underrun errors are avoided. Finally, you only need one ISA slot, as the SCC-1 and MPU-IPC-T do the same thing unless you wish to use each in a separate computer. I know that the SCC-1 can be used as a midi port; I already used it that way and then indeed I only need one ISA slot. But I have no ISA slot available right now :? Then you should send ME your SCC-1!  :lol: That card sounds too good to give up :wink: ...except maybe in exchange for a SC-88 or so? :wink: :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 02:17:34 AM » |
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Welcome to the forum MarcV!  As with several of the posters on this thread, I also keep an older Pentium II 266 MHz PC with ISA slots for retro gaming and the Sierra clasics, with dual-boot between Windows 95C/MS-DOS 7.0 and Windows ME for maximum compatibility purposes with older games. If interested in running everything natively without hadware emulation, you might want to consider purchasing an older Pentium I/II PC with at least 2 ISA slots on e-bay, which can be found relatively easily for reasonable prices these days.
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Roland collection: CM-500 (both revs), SCB-55 + MPU-401/AT, D-550, RAP-10, SCC-1B, SCC-1 Other Roland: Super MPU, MPU-IPC, MPU-IPC-T, original MPU-401, SB-55, MCB-1, MCB-10 Sound Card gear: SB AWE 64 Gold, SB AWE 32, SB Pro II, TB Tropez Classic
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