Adventure Games

[Fancia]

I said that I already HAVE the original Mac version, I would rather just download the MacOS X version.

I'm aware of that. The OS X version was ported and published by a different company than the original Mac version. Wyrmkeep are very unlikely to give you a copy of the OS X version for free, since they received no money from your purchase of the original Mac version. If you want to play it in OS X, you should either use Classic or pay Wyrmkeep.

[Marten]

Let me clarify the situation, Boogeyman...

Wyrmkeep Entertainment is not the original publisher of the game - that was New World Computing.  As I understand things, Wyrmkeep had to purchase the rights to the game from the company that held NWC's portfolio, and then they invested their time and cash to update the game to run on today's modern hardware.  They are not going to give out free "upgrades" - they really can't afford to.

(Edit) Whoops, Fancia beat me to the explanation!

[Boogeyman]

Anywhere where I could get the soundtrack?

[Marten]

Fancia?  That -would- be a nice freebie.  BTW, I'm not entirely sure that the *best* soundtrack for ITE wasn't with a GUS (Gravis Ultrasound), not the MT-32.

[Fancia]

That is a good idea, actually. :3 Did you want digital or MIDI? I was planning on doing an SC-55/MT-32 at some point, at any rate.
Marten, are you certain? I've never heard the GUS version, but the MIDIs seem to be balanced to MT-32, and the Mac version actually uses MT-32 samples in its softsynth.

[Boogeyman]

Preferably in MIDI.

Also, how would I import the MIDIs into the game itself? Cut and Paste with ResEdit and HexEdit doesn't work. I tried it with another program that uses MIDI in the same way as ITE and it didn't sound right at all!

[Fancia]

All right, you can download the MIDIs as obtained from the Mac version here.

What do you mean by "import into the game itself?"

[Marten]

That is a good idea, actually. :3 Did you want digital or MIDI? I was planning on doing an SC-55/MT-32 at some point, at any rate.
Marten, are you certain? I've never heard the GUS version, but the MIDIs seem to be balanced to MT-32, and the Mac version actually uses MT-32 samples in its softsynth.

Perhaps it was meant for the MT-32, but when I played ITE with my GUS, I thought it sounded better on that.  Personal preference I suppose.

While Boogeyman votes for MIDI, I'm going to vote for digital.  With MIDI, I'd have to hook up my MT-32 to enjoy it.  With digital, all I need is WinAMP.

[Boogeyman]

I wouldn't mind hearing digital either!

[HondaSiR]

I vote for a digital conversion guys. Most of the members here don't have the necessary hardware but WinAmp can be downloaded quite easily. I also would like to request a GUS recording of ITE since Marten has said it plays better in that format. If its not too much of a hassle for anybody, please record both MT-32 and GUS so that we can make the comparison.

[Boogeyman]

I also want Digital as MT-32 wasn't good enough.

[Marten]

It should be possible to produce the sound of the GUS soundtrack very easily  by using the GM MIDI soundtrack, with two other things:

1) The program called "Timidity++"
2) The Gravis Ultrasound patch bank

See:  http://timidity.sourceforge.net/

But of course, nothing is truly easy.  There is a problem - Gravis licensed their sound patch bank from another company, "Eye & I Productions", and so the original patch bank is nearly impossible to find (Eye & I won't let it be posted anywhere).

And, I sold my GUS (and all the disks that came with it) many years ago.

[HondaSiR]

And, I sold my GUS (and all the disks that came with it) many years ago.

Now we're all in a bind...who else among the members have the GUS? I planned to purchase one in the past but because of financial constraints (and my purchase of the MT-32 and SCB-55) I abandoned it.  Not to mention that the GUS only works in Windows 95 and DOS (although DosBox should be able to get it to work).

Anyway, let's hear the MT-32 score of ITE...let's worry about the GUS later.

[Laust]

The GUS patches were on Gravis' FTP site no more than a year and a half ago. When I checked just now, nothing!

I should have the patches on a harddrive as part of the GUS installation, or failing that, installation disk images. I'll check.

[MusicallyInspired]

Anyone ever hear of Star Trekn TNG A Final Unity? That was a great game. But it's practically non-existant.

[Boogeyman]

As I said, the MT-32 was unsatisfactory. I want Digital!

[Marten]

As I said, the MT-32 was unsatisfactory. I want Digital!

The digital version is recorded from an MT-32.  What else did you expect it to be recorded from, someone humming it on a kazoo?

[Fancia]

As I said, the MT-32 was unsatisfactory. I want Digital!

The digital version is recorded from an MT-32.  What else did you expect it to be recorded from, someone humming it on a kazoo?

Well, there goes my idea. ;.;
But, more seriously, yes; the digital mix was going to be primarily MT-32, with a few SC-55 instruments from the (generally vastly inferior) SC-55 version.

[HondaSiR]

As I said, the MT-32 was unsatisfactory. I want Digital!

The digital version is recorded from an MT-32.  What else did you expect it to be recorded from, someone humming it on a kazoo?

Well, there goes my idea. ;.;
But, more seriously, yes; the digital mix was going to be primarily MT-32, with a few SC-55 instruments from the (generally vastly inferior) SC-55 version.

Just out of curiosity, ummm, but what is a kazoo? Would the soundtrack sound better if someone did humm on it?  :smt005

[Fancia]

As I said, the MT-32 was unsatisfactory. I want Digital!

The digital version is recorded from an MT-32.  What else did you expect it to be recorded from, someone humming it on a kazoo?

Well, there goes my idea. ;.;
But, more seriously, yes; the digital mix was going to be primarily MT-32, with a few SC-55 instruments from the (generally vastly inferior) SC-55 version.

Just out of curiosity, ummm, but what is a kazoo? Would the soundtrack sound better if someone did humm on it?  :smt005

The kazoo is an "instrument" that basically just applies an amusing distortion to the sound of the person humming into it. Except for pounding rocks on rocks (or sticks on rocks, if you're particularly sophisticated), it's approximately the cheapest "instrument' there is. ;3