I got myself a Roland SCC-1

[Locutus]

Hello!

I recently got myself an SCC-1 supposedly complete with packaging, manuals, cables and so on.

Here are some pictures:



What I am really interested in now is, if it really is complete. The following items came with it:

* The card itself, obviously
* Original packaging in great condition
* English and german owner's manual
* 2x Mini-DIN to DIN MIDI cable
* Utility disk with drivers (Still 100% readable)
* Sheet with installation instructions for utility disk
* Stickers for MIDI in/out connectors

I got all that for 40 EUR.

Is something missing? :-)

Regards,
locutus

[NewRisingSUn]

RCA cables.

[Galahad]

Congrats on getting the new SCC-1, and in in such great condition!   

[Mike 01Hawk]

Noice!

[Patrick Chang]

Lucky you.

You have the later revision card which contains 354 instruments. (early revision 317 instruments)

[Locutus]

@Patrick Chang: Interesting, I thought I had the first version. The label on the board clearly reads SCC-1A... wasn't SCC-1B the second version?

locutus

[bestemor]

Well, according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_SCC-1

"SCC-1" is the first version, and "SCC-1A" is the second...
(but, this is wikipedia, so who really knows...    )

PS: Mine (sadly) says "SCC-1" only, so unless there's a third version around, I guess the info above is correct...

[NightSprinter]

I have to wonder out of curiosity: what is that socket for on the card?

[Rhizome]

I have to wonder out of curiosity: what is that socket for on the card?

I don't think that is actually a socket. Looking carefully it's a weird chip soldered to the board.

[Ari]

I saw a reference in that link to Wikipedia to something called a Roland GPPC-N.
Does anyone know what that is? sounds like something for the PC-98 like the LAPC-N.

[Great Hierophant]

I saw a reference in that link to Wikipedia to something called a Roland GPPC-N.
Does anyone know what that is? sounds like something for the PC-98 like the LAPC-N.

That is the PC98's SCC-1.  The picture even shows the same "weird chip" configuration that houses the MPU-401 interface. 

The weird chip is divided into three sections, one for the microcontroller, one for the bus interface and one for the SRAM.  Those are the three major components of the basic MPU-401 interface (intelligent + UART).

[Patrick Chang]

Well, according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_SCC-1

"SCC-1" is the first version, and "SCC-1A" is the second...
(but, this is wikipedia, so who really knows...    )

PS: Mine (sadly) says "SCC-1" only, so unless there's a third version around, I guess the info above is correct...

Well bestemor, you can send me a photo of ya SCC-1 or check out the Appendix H of the following FAQ. Hope you can give me some good news after checking out the FAQ.

http://archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/MIDI/DOC/FAQS/SCC1-FAQ

[bestemor]

Well bestemor, you can send me a photo of ya SCC-1 or check out the Appendix H of the following FAQ. Hope you can give me some good news after checking out the FAQ.

I checked the appendix H in that FAQ, but not sure what you mean... ?
Am I to try what it says, to determine if MY card is able to 'activate' the new(?) patches, and it would be 'good news' for ME if so ?
Or has this something to do with determining what versions exist, if wikipedia should be updated or something like that ?

I don't have any of those programs or midi files listed, so haven't tried the 'recipe' in app.H yet.
(and looks somewhat confusing at the moment, never having done any such thing - would this have to be done in DOS, seeing as the faq is from 1994?)
And equally clueless as to what 'program change' and 'bank change' means...

As for picture, I haven't bothered signing up for an online storing service yet, and seems like it is impossible to upload or attach anything on this board(other than links), so...
If you really want, I can email you a pic (provided I get your email address - PM me).

Anyway, the text(in the middle) on my card says "SCC-1" only, no A(like the other pic in this thread) nor B... if that matters...
Not sure what else to look for.

PS: if not apparent by now, I'm a total(well, almost) newbie when it comes these things 
But I've understood that 317 sounds is 'bad' and 354 is 'good', hence the "sadly" remark...

[Patrick Chang]

Well bestemor, you can send me a photo of ya SCC-1 or check out the Appendix H of the following FAQ. Hope you can give me some good news after checking out the FAQ.

I checked the appendix H in that FAQ, but not sure what you mean... ?
Am I to try what it says, to determine if MY card is able to 'activate' the new(?) patches, and it would be 'good news' for ME if so ?
Or has this something to do with determining what versions exist, if wikipedia should be updated or something like that ?

I don't have any of those programs or midi files listed, so haven't tried the 'recipe' in app.H yet.
(and looks somewhat confusing at the moment, never having done any such thing - would this have to be done in DOS, seeing as the faq is from 1994?)
And equally clueless as to what 'program change' and 'bank change' means...

As for picture, I haven't bothered signing up for an online storing service yet, and seems like it is impossible to upload or attach anything on this board(other than links), so...
If you really want, I can email you a pic (provided I get your email address - PM me).

Anyway, the text(in the middle) on my card says "SCC-1" only, no A(like the other pic in this thread) nor B... if that matters...
Not sure what else to look for.

PS: if not apparent by now, I'm a total(well, almost) newbie when it comes these things 
But I've understood that 317 sounds is 'bad' and 354 is 'good', hence the "sadly" remark...

I see. Since you are clueless to "program change" and "bank change" ... I already PM you. Check ya mailbox.

Eventually, I suspect a 4th type of packaging in the Roland SCC-1. There are currently 3 types that confirmed to exist.

1. Original Roland SCC-1 (317) card without the BalladeGS software bundle. (with old or new version of utility disk)
2. Updated Roland SCC-1A (354) card without the BalladeGS software bundle. (with new version of utility disk)
3. Updated Roland SCC-1A (354) card with the BalladeGS software bundle. (with new version of utility disk, some may come with 37 extra patch sheet)

4. Original Roland SCC-1 (317) card with the BalladeGS software bundle. (with new version of utility disk)

Currently I own a Type-1 and a Type-3 SCC-1.
Locutus own a Type-2 SCC-1.
Galahad might have a Type-4 ... still awaiting his photo to confirm.

PC

P/S: I am moving this to another topic.

[bestemor]

"Slightly" off-topic, here's a lot of pics of a number of cards and contraptions - just click on the different links(midi stuff in the top 4):

http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/MUSEUM/

Looks like there exists a YAMAHA-DB60XG daughterboard ??
http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/MUSEUM/YAMAHA_DB60XG.jpg

Somewhat ON-topic    :
http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/MUSEUM/Roland_SCC-1.jpg

...And, while I'm at it, this site has a lot of 'fun' stuff, sadly I can't read anything, but... check out these projects:
http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/?cat=5

Clicking the other links on the left menus will probably lead to other stuff/pics, so.... 
Maybe someone on this board are able to read the pages, and if finding something of interest, maybe translate or point out ?
Oh well - at least they have pictures !

[Great Hierophant]

Apparently these newer boards are now GM compatible, whereas the older boards were not (the manual does not mention GM at all.)

[mace]

"Slightly" off-topic, here's a lot of pics of a number of cards and contraptions - just click on the different links(midi stuff in the top 4):

http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/MUSEUM/

Looks like there exists a YAMAHA-DB60XG daughterboard ??
http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/MUSEUM/YAMAHA_DB60XG.jpg
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Yes, it's like the SW60XG, but without the mixing capabilities. The mixing was done on the soundcard obviously.
Anyway, I've got one underway somewhere between singapore and here.
It's the NEC PC-98 OEM version (it came with the CanBe or something), but a waveblaster interface is a waveblaster interface so it's compatible with the DB50 and the SCB-55 and all other waveblaster cards.



EDIT: It's here, yay!