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shad0wfax
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« on: March 11, 2009, 01:12:15 PM »
With this post I’d like to “resurrect” the old discussion about the comparison, in terms of sound quality, between the Roland CM-32P (or the PCM part of the CM-64) and the SC-55.

I’ve always thought that at least some of the CM-32P patches were better than its SC-55 counterparts, especially those found in the SN-U110 expansion cards. After a quite long process, I’ve finally managed to get the full collection of SN-U110 cards (15 in total), so I’ve been able to do a proper comparison. Here there are all the cards in all their glory Wink :



As you probably know, the CM-32P is a cut-down version of the U-110, one of the very first fully PCM based synths from Roland. The synthesis engine of the U-series is very simple and “primitive” (we’re talking about PCM technology of the 80s), so they are more like sample players instead of “real” synthesizers. Virtually the only parameters than can be edited are the frequency of the oscillators (pitch) and the amplitude and the envelope generator of the amplifier. There’s no filter at all. Nonetheless, the specs were quite good at the time: 31-voice polyphony (up to two elements per patch), 6-part multitimbral and effects processor. The synthesis engine of the Sound Canvas is a bit better (filters), and it has a lot more patches, but there are on the other hand some drawbacks, such as less polyphony and the inability to select the oscillator waveform for creating patches (although you cannot do it either in the CM-32P or the CM-64; only in the U-series).

The point is that I think that the CM-32P can sound better than the SC-55 because at least some of the PCM samples are of a higher quality. That’s especially true in the case of the expansion cards. Some of the sounds found on these cards rival the quality of many more modern synthesizers. This makes the CM-32P an interesting tool for music creation. But in order to let everyone to listen and judge by himself, I’ve made some recordings. Here you’ll find some phrases using equivalent or comparable patches, both performed by a CM-32P (actually, a CM-64), and a SC-55 (actually, a SC-88 using the SC-55 soundmap, as I currently don’t have any SC-55 or 100% compatible. Maybe there could be some slight differences in sound between the SC-55 soundmap of the SC-88 and the real SC-55, but I suspect that, even if they exist, that would mean that the SC-88 sounds better, due to its higher quality 18-bit DACs and audio signal output).

I’ve selected virtually all the patches which are “equivalent” among the CM-32P (either internal presets or expansion cards) and the SC-55. There are many GM patches which have no counterpart in the CM-32P even with the cards, but to be fair there are also many other patches in the SN-U110 cards with no equivalent in the SC-55 soundmap. All the phrases are performed by me, so don’t expect great playing skills. They were all recorded using my M-Audio Audiophile Delta 192, and MP3 encoded at 320 kbps. Reverb settings were the default ones. For even further comparison, I’ve also recorded the same phrases using a basic XG module (the MU-50).

Acoustic Grand Piano:
A.PIANO 2 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Grand_Piano.mp3
Piano 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Grand_Piano.mp3
GrandPno (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Grand_Piano.mp3

Bright Acoustic Piano:
A.PIANO 3 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Bright_Piano.mp3
Piano 2 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Bright_Piano.mp3
BritePno (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Bright_Piano.mp3

Electric Grand Piano:
E. GRAND 5 (SN-U110-04): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Electric_Grand.mp3
Piano 3 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Electric_Grand.mp3
E.Grand (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Electric_Grand.mp3

Honly-tonk:
A.PIANO 4 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Honkytonk.mp3
Honky-tonk (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Honkytonk.mp3
HnkyTonk (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Honkytonk.mp3

Rhodes Electric Piano:
E.PIANO 3 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)EPiano(Rhodes).mp3
Detuned EP 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)EPiano(Rhodes).mp3
Chor.EP1 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)EPiano(Rhodes).mp3

FM Electric Piano:
BRIGHT EP2 (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)EPiano(FM).mp3
Detuned EP 2 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)EPiano(FM).mp3
Chor.EP2 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)EPiano(FM).mp3

Harpsichord:
HARPSI 1 (SN-U110-01): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Harpsichord.mp3
Harpsichord (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Harpsichord.mp3
Harpsi. (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Harpsichord.mp3

Clavi:
CLAVI 3 (SN-U110-04): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Clavi.mp3
Clav. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Clavi.mp3
Clavi. (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Clavi.mp3

Santur:
SANTUR 1 (SN-U110-03): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Santur.mp3
Santur (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Santur.mp3
Dulcimer (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Santur.mp3

Drawbar Organ:
E.ORGAN 6 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)WheelOrgan.mp3
Detuned Or. 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)WheelOrgan.mp3
DetDwOr (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)WheelOrgan.mp3

Perc. Organ:
E.ORGAN 9 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)PercOrgan.mp3
Detuned Or. 2 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)PercOrgan.mp3
DetPrcOr (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)PercOrgan.mp3

Rotary Organ:
R. ORGAN 2 (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)RtryOrgan.mp3
Organ 3 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)RtryOrgan.mp3
RockOrgn (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)RtryOrgan.mp3

Pipe Organ:
CHURCH 7 (SN-U110-01): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)PipeOrgan.mp3
Church Org. 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)PipeOrgan.mp3
ChrchOrg (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)PipeOrgan.mp3

Reed Organ:
POSITIVE 3 (SN-U110-01): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)ReedOrgan.mp3
Reed Organ (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)ReedOrgan.mp3
ReedOrgn (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)ReedOrgan.mp3

Nylon Guitar:
NYLON (L) + NYLON (R) (SN-U110-14): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)NylonGuitar.mp3
Nylon-str. Gt (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)NylonGuitar.mp3
NylonGtr(MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)NylonGuitar.mp3

Steel Guitar :
STEEL (L) + STEEL (R) (SN-U110-14): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SteelGuitar.mp3
Steel.Str. Gt (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SteelGuitar.mp3
SteelGtr (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SteelGuitar.mp3

Jazz Guitar:
JZG SW 1 (SN-U110-07): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)JazzGuitar.mp3
Jazz Gt. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)JazzGuitar.mp3
Jazz Gtr (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)JazzGuitar.mp3

Muted Guitar:
E.GUITAR 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)MutedGuitar.mp3
Funk Gt. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)MutedGuitar.mp3
FunkGtr2 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)MutedGuitar.mp3

Overdrive Guitar:
ODG SW 5 (SN-U110-07): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)OverdriveGt.mp3
Overdrive Gt (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)OverdriveGt.mp3
Overdrive (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)OverdriveGt.mp3

Distorted Guitar:
DSG F (SN-U110-07): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)DistGt.mp3
DistortionGt (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)DistGt.mp3
Dist.Gtr (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)DistGt.mp3

Acoustic Bass:
AC. BASS (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)AcousticBass.mp3
Acoustic Bs. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)AcousticBass.mp3
Aco.Bass (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)AcousticBass.mp3

Fingered Bass:
FINGERED 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)FingeredBass.mp3
Fingered Bs. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)FingeredBass.mp3
FngrBass(MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)FingeredBass.mp3

Picked Bass:
PICKED 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)PickedBass.mp3
Picked Bs. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)PickedBass.mp3
PickBass (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)PickedBass.mp3

Fretless Bass:
FRETLESS 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)FretlessBass.mp3
Fretless Bs. (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)FretlessBass.mp3
Fretless (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)FretlessBass.mp3

Slap Bass:
SLAP 6 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SlapBass.mp3
Slap Bs. 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SlapBass.mp3
SlapBas2 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SlapBass.mp3

Synth Bass:
SYN BASS 4 (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SynthBass.mp3
Synth Bass 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SynthBass.mp3
SynBass1 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SynthBass.mp3

Violin:
VIOLIN 1 (SN-U110-05): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Violin.mp3
Violin (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Violin.mp3
Violin (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Violin.mp3

Cello:
CELLO 1 (SN-U110-05): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Cello.mp3
Cello (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Cello.mp3
Cello (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Cello.mp3

Contrabass:
CB/CELLO (SN-U110-05): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Contrabass.mp3
Contrabass (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Contrabass.mp3
Contrabs (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Contrabass.mp3

Pizzicato:
PIZZICATO (SN-U110-05): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Pizzicato.mp3
PizzicatoStr (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Pizzicato.mp3
Pizz.Str (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Pizzicato.mp3

Harp:
HARP 1 (SN-U110-05): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Harp.mp3
Harp (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Harp.mp3
Harp (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Harp.mp3

Timpani:
TIMPANI 1 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Timpani.mp3
Timpani (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Timpani.mp3
Timpani (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Timpani.mp3

Strings Ensemble:
SUP STR 1L + SUP STR 1R  (SN-U110-13): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Strings.mp3
Strings (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Strings.mp3
Strings1 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Strings.mp3

SUP STR 2L + SUP STR 2R  (SN-U110-13): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SlowStrings.mp3
Slow Strings (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SlowStrings.mp3
Strings2 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SlowStrings.mp3

Synth Strings:
JP. STRINGS (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SynthStr.mp3
Syn. Strings1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SynthStr.mp3
Syn.Str1 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SynthStr.mp3

Choir:
CHOIR 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Choir.mp3
Choir Aahs (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Choir.mp3
ChoirAah (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Choir.mp3

SynVox :
SYN CHOIR (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SynVox.mp3
SynVox (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SynVox.mp3
SynVoice (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SynVox.mp3

Orchestra Hit :
ORCHE HIT (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)OrchHit.mp3
OrchestraHit (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)OrchHit.mp3
Orch.Hit (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)OrchHit.mp3

Trumpet:
SOFT TP 1 (preset CM-32P): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Trumpet.mp3
Trumpet (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Trumpet.mp3
Trumpet (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Trumpet.mp3

Trombone:
TRB SW 1 (SN-U110-12): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Trombone.mp3
Trombone (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Trombone.mp3
Trombone (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Trombone.mp3

Tuba :
TUBA 1 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Tuba.mp3
Tuba (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Tuba.mp3
Tuba (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Tuba.mp3

French Horn:
FR. HORN 3 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)FrenchHorn.mp3
French Horn (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)FrenchHorn.mp3
Fr.Horn (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)FrenchHorn.mp3

Brass Ensemble:
BRS CMB 2L + BRS CMB 2R (SN-U110-15): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Brass.mp3
Brass 1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Brass.mp3
BrasSect (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Brass.mp3

Synth Brass :
JP. BRASS 1 (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SynBrass.mp3
Synth Brass1 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SynBrass.mp3
SynBras1 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SynBrass.mp3

Saxophone:
SAX SW 1 (SN-U110-12): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Sax.mp3
Alto Sax (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Sax.mp3
TenorSax (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Sax.mp3

Oboe:
OBOE 2 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Oboe.mp3
Oboe (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Oboe.mp3
Oboe (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Oboe.mp3

Bassoon:
BASSOON 2 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Bassoon.mp3
Bassoon (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Bassoon.mp3
Bassoon (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Bassoon.mp3

Clarinet:
CLARINET 2 (SN-U110-06): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Clarinet.mp3
Clarinet (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Clarinet.mp3
Clarinet (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Clarinet.mp3

Pan Flute:
SICU 1 (SN-U110-03): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)PanPipes.mp3
Pan Flute (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)PanPipes.mp3
PanFlute (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)PanPipes.mp3

Saw Wave:
SAW WAVE 1 (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Saw.mp3
Saw (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Saw.mp3
Saw 2 (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Saw.mp3

Synth Calliope:
L. CALLIOPE (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SynCalliope.mp3
Syn. Calliope (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SynCalliope.mp3
CaliopLd (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SynCalliope.mp3

Solo Vox:
BREATH VOX (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SoloVox.mp3
Solo Vox (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SoloVox.mp3
Voice Ld (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SoloVox.mp3

Fantasia:
FANTASIA (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Fantasia.mp3
Fantasia (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Fantasia.mp3
NewAgePd (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Fantasia.mp3

Polysynth:
RICH BRASS (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Polysynth.mp3
Polysynth (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Polysynth.mp3
PloySyPd (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Polysynth.mp3

Space Voice :
SYN. VOX 2 (SN-U110-09): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)SpaceVoice.mp3
Space Voice (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)SpaceVoice.mp3
ChoirPad (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)SpaceVoice.mp3

Crystal :
FANTA BELL1 (SN-U110-08): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Crystal.mp3
Crystal (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Crystal.mp3
Crystal (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Crystal.mp3

Sitar :
SITAR 1 (SN-U110-03): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Sitar.mp3
Sitar (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Sitar.mp3
Sitar (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Sitar.mp3

Koto :
KOTO 3 (SN-U110-03): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Koto.mp3
Koto (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Koto.mp3
Koto (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Koto.mp3

Shanai :
SHANAI 3 (SN-U110-03): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Shanai.mp3
Shanai (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Shanai.mp3
Shanai (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Shanai.mp3

Analog Drums :
ELEC DRUMS (SN-U110-10): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Drums_Analog.mp3
TR-808 (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Drums_Analog.mp3
AnalgKit (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Drums_Analog.mp3

Rock Drums :
ROCK DRUMS (SN-U110-10): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Drums_Rock.mp3
POWER (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Drums_Rock.mp3
Rock Kit (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Drums_Rock.mp3

Latin Percussion:
LATIN 2 (SN-U110-02): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)Drums_Latin.mp3
STANDARD (SC-55): http://ismael.cat/david/(SC55)Drums_Latin.mp3
StandKit (MU-50): http://ismael.cat/david/(MU50)Drums_Latin.mp3

Also, I tried to test how a CM-32P, fully equipped with expansion cards, would perform in an entire track. So I picked up some of my favourite tunes from the LSL3 soundtrack and I “converted” them to the CM-32P. As the module can only use one expansion card at once, I converted the midi tracks into audio tracks when needed, so I could use every time the patch I wanted to. Here there are the tracks:

LSL3 – Island Song: http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)LSL3_Island.mp3
LSL3 – Fat City: http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)LSL3_FatCity.mp3
LSL3 – The Incredible Dork: http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)LSL3_IncredibleDork.mp3
LSL3 – Dale Carsonian (this one uses the vibraphone patch from the CM-32L, as there is no vibes patch in the CM-32P, even with the expansion cards): http://ismael.cat/david/(CM64)LSL3_Carsonian.mp3

Well, I think it’s enough for now! Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 02:04:25 PM »
Quote from: shad0wfax on March 11, 2009, 01:12:15 PM
..in order to let everyone to listen and judge by himself, I’ve made some recordings.

Some? Thats about a hundred!  Shocked
Impressive work.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 05:57:36 PM »
Listening to how these samples all sound like the SC-55, only better, I am musing how great the SC-55 could have been.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 06:58:51 PM »
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Listening to how these samples all sound like the SC-55, only better, I am musing how great the SC-55 could have been.

By the time the SC-55 was released, Roland already had a good bunch of great samples. I guess that, given the memory prices, the SC-55 was a trade-off between quality and quantity, considering also that it was not the top-end of Roland synths. Anyway, it was a very good product, IMHO.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 06:09:01 PM »
Yo, awesome work!
By any chance have you recorded all your riffs in a midi file?
If so I would like to have those so I can make my own comparison stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2009, 08:00:25 AM »
Unfortunately I didn't use midi files, but Cubase projects, and in a VERY rough way (without instrument settings, tempos, and so on), because they were "quick test" recordings and all the settings were made using the master keyboard and/or module controls. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 01:51:58 PM »
Nevertheless, excellent effort, truly excellent.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 03:21:38 PM »
Yes, definitely an awesome effort, Shad0wfax. It's interesting for me to compare your CM-32P only LSL3 recordings to the ones I've been working on for my CM-64 LSL3 complete soundtrack project.

I've been using the SN-U110-07 card, the only one I actually have, for this project. I think it's really doing wonders for some of the tracks, as guitars are one of the weak spots of the CM-32L (and, as a matter of fact, the CM-32P as well).

What did you use for percussion, btw? The CM-32P doesn't have a percussion track or any native samples.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2009, 09:36:42 AM »
I'm glad you liked my work. I think that the CM-32P can be a very interesting tool for composing music (although quite limited in terms of sound editing and effects), as long as you can use some SN-U110 cards. It also helps having the L/A part also (CM-64).

All the percussions are based on the SN-U110-02 and SN-U110-10 cards, because, as you rightly point out, the CM-32P has no percussion sounds at all.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2009, 09:52:49 AM »
There should be a way to add all the SN-U110 cards and remap it to the patch bank of a SC-55, now that would be awesome.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 08:43:10 AM »
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There should be a way to add all the SN-U110 cards and remap it to the patch bank of a SC-55, now that would be awesome.

That would be great, but it's not possible as there's one single expansion slot in the CM-32P and 15 different cards...  Sad

Maybe daisy-chaining 15 different modules  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 08:46:57 AM »
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There should be a way to add all the SN-U110 cards and remap it to the patch bank of a SC-55, now that would be awesome.

That would be great, but it's not possible as there's one single expansion slot in the CM-32P and 15 different cards...  Sad
Yeah I know. The U110 can hold 8 cards? So maybe the CM32 can be modified to do so as well.
It's too complicated tho.
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Maybe daisy-chaining 15 different modules  Grin

Well, that could work in theory.
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